Dumbledore is Gay, and I’m Mad

Dumbledore with the Elder Wand, "Dumbledore is Gay, and I'm Mad" visual, The Third Eve

Harry Potter series author J. K. Rowling announced yesterday that Albus Dumbledore, headmaster of Hogwarts School, is gay.

ABC News confirmed the announcement, reporting that Potter fans reacted with laughter, pride, and anger “as author Rowling pushes Potter mentor out of the closet.” A Potter fan myself, I felt a mix of loss and disappointment when I heard the news, along with a faint irritation toward Rowling I couldn’t quite shake.

I knew my reaction wasn’t about personal tolerance—so why, then, did Rowling’s words and actions feel so fundamentally wrong? Why did her characterization of her intentions leave me not just skeptical, but outright irritated?

As a psychoanalyst, self-examination is not just a professional skill—it’s a personal necessity. That day, I wrestled with my own reactions, questioning not just what irritated me about Rowling’s revelation, but why. By evening, clarity emerged, and with it this essay.

The Harry Potter novels take the reader into wonderful, fanciful, magical realms. This sort of magic isn’t to be trifled with or imperiled by real-world sex, religion, or politics. I’m reading for the magic, dammit, not the sex. I don’t want to think about Dumbledore and his lover, or about Harry and Ginny having sex. I don’t want to know when or how the young wizards lost their virginity. I don’t imagine sexually driven, hormonally-imbalanced, emotionally overblown teenagers in tales set in the fantasy world of wizards, witches, and monsters.

I don’t want to know when Ginny go her first period, or about McGonigal’s hysterectomy or Snape’s closet porn addiction. I don’t care about their mundane sexual activities, their secretions or body odors, or their secret compulsions. If I wanted more of such topics or content in my life, I’d return to the real world and watch reality television or Grey’s Anatomy.

Sex, passion, and the people we love are undeniably woven into the fabric of life—but we all long for something beyond them. That something more is the magic: the ethereal, mysterious force that fuels longing, daydreams, nightmares, fantasy, and the great stories that endure—The Lord of the Rings, The Chronicles of Narnia, and yes, Harry Potter. We never needed to know Gandalf’s romantic inclinations, Aragorn’s private affairs, or whether King Peter was gay or straight—so why, in the name of all that’s magical, must we suddenly concern ourselves with Dumbledore’s sexual orientation?

Stop messing with the magic, Rowling.

To me, Rowling’s announcement seems more a self-defeating trick than the noble act she sought to portray. According to ABC News, Rowling “considers her novels a ‘prolonged argument for tolerance,’ and urged her fans to ‘question authority.’”

What authority should her readers question, I wonder? The authority of some bygone era when we didn’t have gay marriage or entire television shows produced by, for, and with gay people and those of all gender identities? The authority of a place where laws prosecuting hate crimes don’t exist, and where parents don’t regularly tell their children to stop saying “you’re gay” as if “gay” is an insult? I wonder what world J. K. Rowling inhabits that needs an army of defiant bibliophiles to question its authorities?

Perhaps Rowling seeks to be seen as a societal change agent or culture reformer by finally admitting that Dumbledore is gay—but it seems more likely that an inner authority constantly telling her to shut up and be a good girl and she finally came out with something shocking and devilish that constitutes defiance against that authority. Perhaps she projected her defiance onto an authority she imagines, rather like setting up a straw man argument and then feeling full of oneself after knocking him down. I think so, because there’s a difference between theatrical acts of nobility and real ones. I don’t sense authentic nobility or principled dissent.

A noble act, I think, would have been to openly portray Dumbledore as gay long before now. Rowling could have courageously outed him in the second novel and flown in the face of potentially destructive media attention—but she didn’t. A truly noble act is one that involves the sacrifice of something valuable. Certainly, the millions of dollars Rowling has earned are valuable, yet she waited until after the last Potter book was published before revealing that Dumbledore is gay. Poor Dumbledore, in the closet all that time. Rowling let him go to the grave with his secret.

Across seven Harry Potter books, Rowling positioned Dumbledore as an archetypal, symbolic figure, offering no explicit confirmation of his sexuality. In the ABC interview, she claimed the topic of his sexual identity only emerged during the filming of the sixth film and was documented solely in a marginal, handwritten note—yet no evidence of such a note exists. By keeping his sexuality vague, Rowling relegated it to the margins rather than weaving it meaningfully into the narrative. Readers had long assumed Dumbledore was straight—or, more precisely, never thought to question his sexuality at all. As a grand old bachelor untouched by romance, he embodied a timeless wisdom, his identity more mythic than personal—just as an archetype should be.

In Archetypes of the Collective Unconscious, Jung wrote about the Wise Old Man archetype, indicating that it arises from the animus (the male aspect), and  involves both dark and light aspects. Thus, a myth will have a dark lord and a light lord, such as Gandalf and Sauron, or Dumbledore and Voldemort, or Obi Wan Kenobi and Darth Vader. These characters together are used to represent aspects of the wise old man. The archetypal idea being communicated is that the same character who heals may also wound; that no one, even the wise old man, is entirely good. Jung described the function and appearance of the archetype thus:

The frequency with which the spirit-type appears as an old man is about the same in fairytales as in dreams. The old man always appears when the hero is in a hopeless and desperate situation from which only profound reflection or a lucky idea–in otherwords, a spiritual function or an endopsychic automatism of some kind–can extricate him. But since, for internal and external reasons, the hero cannot accomplish this himself, the knowledge needed to compensate the deficiency comes in the form of a personified thought, i.e., in the shape of this sagacious and helpful old man (Archetypes 218-219).

The wise old man has a spiritual character built on moral qualities; he represents knowledge, reflection, insight, wisdom, cleverness, and intuition. Let me be clear, here: Dumbledore can embody all those qualities and be gay.

Rowling placed Dumbledore in situations rich with the potential for wisdom, yet she failed to show him evolving to truly earn that wisdom. Take Dumbledore’s youthful admiration for Grindelwald—the kind of misjudgment that, in a well-developed arc, might serve as a turning point for growth. But Rowling never showed us his transformation, never traced his internal reckoning or development. Instead, she presented him as a fixed, unchanging figure, leaving readers to accept her label without the substance to support it.

She drew from some of the most enduring and profound archetypal material in modern literature—then undermined it. Rather than letting the Harry Potter mythos unfold organically, she diminished its symbolic weight, stripping Dumbledore’s legacy of nuance, trivializing the magic that made him archetypal. In the end, she left her audience with spectacle instead of meaning, expecting them to cheer unquestioningly, as if dazzled by nothing more than the glow of candles atop a birthday cake—all under the banner of tolerance.

Here’s what I have to say, J. K. Rowling: you can set up your straw man, light him ablaze, and dance around the flames chanting incantations, but you won’t convince me that your announcement was about tolerance or creating a kinder, gentler world.

Someone with your talent and influence should have gone further—should have created a Harry Potter series where a gay protagonist embarks on a genuine quest for wholeness. If understanding was truly the goal, you could have shown his anguish, loneliness, rejection, and bewilderment across seven or eight novels, letting readers experience the reality of being gay in both this world and the one you crafted. You could have made him vibrantly alive, deeply spiritual, and ultimately whole—while being openly gay.

But you didn’t. Your Wise Old Man stayed silent—until he was dead.




30 responses to “Dumbledore is Gay, and I’m Mad”

  1. Eve Avatar

    Outing Dumbledore after all the books were published didn’t seem heroic or admirable, given the information available. Perhaps she’ll explain herself more fully, and I’ll change my mind. If I do, I’ll be sure and blog about it.

    Until then… this is how I feel.

  2. Henitsirk Avatar

    More thoughts indeed came:

    I also agree that she’s “messing with the magic.” I don’t think we need to know every little thing about characters’ back story. Sometimes it’s illumination and intriguing; other times it’s just disillusioning.

    I think Rowling meant well with the whole promoting tolerance thing. Yet, perhaps she is a “good girl” in that this revelation remained back story until after the series ended instead of simply being an integral part of Dumbledore’s character as written.

    When you say “she pretended that he was heterosexual by letting all of us think so,” you are making assumptions about the thoughts of her readers. Perhaps, in Western culture, we assume people are hetero unless told otherwise, because that’s our archetypal family configuration. But, at least for me, Dumbledore’s sexual orientation (or that of any of the other characters) never even occurred to me…as you go on to say, he was “sexless, timeless, and ageless,” perhaps more as the Wise Old Man than a real human being.

    I do agree that Rowling did to some degree ruin the archetype. It’s not so much that I think she was devious or cowardly, it’s that perhaps she should never have revealed it at all.

  3. Henitsirk Avatar

    Honestly, when I read about Rowling outing Dumbledore, it didn’t change my perception of his character one whit. Perhaps I’ve fully internalized him as a Wise Old Man, and sexuality just doesn’t intersect with that picture. I imagine Rowling had pictures of who the characters were, and perhaps if he was gay from the beginning that influenced how she wrote him, but I don’t see it in the books themselves. I interpreted her comments as just “revealing” more about the background of the characters, just like she talked about Lily and James and Snape when they were young.

    Maybe I’ll have a few more thoughts on this, but I must go pick up kids from daycare!

  4. Lamberakis Avatar
    Lamberakis

    Frank, I like your honesty. I’d respond to your points, but I am bushed. What I would really love is to go back to the days when women did not have not work for a living. I am only saying that half-tongue-in-cheek. I am just exhausted. Freaking exhausted! And I don’t even have kids.

    By the way, Eve, my essay was well received.

  5. Antones Avatar
    Antones

    I am more than willing to play 🙂 If nothing else, it sharpens my views and beliefs just as much as it does yours to dialogue like this.

    The plot thickens. I attend a Christian university and am in a high-profile student leadership position. I come across other students and faculty and get mixed reactions. There is the (poorly) masked reaction of, “Tsk tsk tsk. What has this university come to?” Or, “Wow! Good for you for being in such a controversial position.” But, honestly, most people are just curious. And this is kind of my mission for staying here after coming out — to let Christians know that by being gay one is not inherently repulsed by Christianity. Although many are, I want to present an alternative. All of this is kind of off-topic, but leads to my next thought.

    While I am white as Wonder Bread, I do have a few mentors in my life who have shaped me significantly. One of them is a Ph.D.-educated black woman in the field of sociology. In having conversations with her, we’ve found things that resonate deeply with both of us — prejudices, preformed images of what we should be like, outright discrimination, feelings of questionable self-worth…the list goes on and on. It was actually she that suggested that although our situations have VERY different faces, they really are the same core issue of social tolerance, cultural ignorance, or historical bias. It was later, as I began to research some of the theories/arguments/discussions going on in the areas of gay theology and gay social reform that I found that she wasn’t the only one heading that direction. I also am reading a book entitled a book that focuses on interpretation of the Bible from people on the “fringe” of society (De La Torre, 2006). Gays are included in his list of “marginalized,” specifically within the Christian church (on a large scale).

    I am not African American and I would never say that my struggles or things that I experience equal those of an African American. The same way that a Mexican can never say that they understand precisely what it is like to be gay and having grown up in the evangelical church. I am only pointing to historical reactions to “otherness” that we now look back on and cringe.

    I’m willing to be honest alongside you and work through some of this stuff. And I give you permission to cut down anything I have to say with a more “enlightened” or educated view, certainly! I am a mere babe in this world, and have so much to learn. While I have a lot of things personally clarified in my own mind, it never hurts to challenge them, right?

    De La Torre, M.A. (2006). Reading the Bible from the Margins. New York: Orbis Books.

  6. Tricia Avatar

    Hmmm… WOW.

    1) Let’s start by saying I popped in from Cole’s site because I love your comments.

    2) I’ve only read this post and the one following, as well as the comments.

    3) I stand in awe of your writing prowess and knowledge base, truly.

    4) Gender and sexual identity are two different things.

    5) I believe Rowling’s outing of Dumbledore to be simply further clarifying his identity, for no other reason other than that it came up.

    6) I agree with much that has been said here.

    7) Finally, why presume that Rowling allowed us to think of Dumbledore as straight?

  7. Antones Avatar
    Antones

    To Frank_Rizzo:

    About this visceral reaction to gay men being less masculine on a “deep level.” Some might get ruffled at me saying this, but that is the exact same gut reaction that a lot of people had (have) when around African Americans. I posit that this is a culturally-ingrained reaction and that it is your/our duty to work against this, even if it does feel natural or unchangeable. To challenge the idea of initial reactions and tame our primal self a little.

    On a personal note, I laugh. Most people who meet me do not assume that I am gay. And upon learning that I am gay, have a hard time assimilating it into their perception of me. I don’t say this as a mark of pride, nor do I wear it as a badge of honor. It’s just funny to see other peoples’ (especially men) reaction to my sexuality.

    -A

  8. Antones Avatar
    Antones

    Absolutely AMAZING post/blog/writing. I am a gay (youngish) man, and so much of what you say resonates with me! I don’t think “agree” or “disagree” works, because I’m not here to argue semantics. However, I had the same visceral reaction – DON’T MESS WITH DUMBLEDORE! The series is done, and I don’t care if a character was more developed in your head than appeared on paper. We do not need to know that.

    However, another part of me is proud that he is gay. That’s part of what you were referring to as being an “A” student in gaynessology versus being actually gay.

    One thing that I will always carry with me, though, is the image I already have of Dumbledore. I know his failures, his weaknesses, his grand triumphs, and the difference he made in Harry’s life and mission. That’s enough for me. I appreciate your perspective on this, and thanks for being so articulate. Our world needs more of it, and less sensational reactionism. (See, I can make up words, too!).

    -A

    Eve responds: Antones, Wow, and welcome to my blog. I realize I have much to learn, and have felt from reading all these comments that I could use some focused help–and here you are.

  9. renaissanceguy Avatar

    Eve, and others, check out this post.

    http://hogwartsprofessor.com/?p=199

  10. Frank_Rizzo Avatar
    Frank_Rizzo

    Lamberakis, my point wasn’t about what is true; my point was our perceptions of what is true. Dumbledore was put forth as a father figure in the books, and I found it upsetting on a deep level that some manliness was taken away from that. I happen to agree that a gay man can be “manly” but to be honest deep down somewhere it makes Dumbledore less masculine to me. This conclusion is on a totally subconscious level, is not based on any facts, it’s just how I feel. If men where honest and unafraid of being politically correct they would say the same thing. I’m sure not all, but most.

    Your point about circular logic is very true, I think that is part of the reason I like Eve find myself mad that Dumbledore is gay and am struggling to understand why I feel this way. I think that this may be why men in particular struggle with accepting gay men. It does something to our concept of masculinity on a deep level, something that men have trouble transcending. That may not make it right, but hey at least I’m honest. Growing up throwing around the terms “gay” and “fag” as insults does stick with you, and influences your perceptions of masculinity. Finding out Dumbledore actually was one of those terms that I used as insults when I was finding my own masculinity diminishes him. I am of course speaking on my own feelings and opinions, on which I am the world’s foremost expert. There may be a perfectly good reason why I shouldn’t feel that way, but I do.

    Eve comments: Frank, I loved your response and felt a rush of joy upon seeing your honesty here. It’s not easy to own one’s stuff publicly. I know; I felt pretty shaky about publishing this essay.

  11. Lamberakis Avatar
    Lamberakis

    I meant Frank Rizzo, above. I think I used to know him back in Jersey. He’s a swell guy. Not a mean bone in his body.

    Nah, just kidding. I have no idea who he is. Wait, were you posting as Frank Rizzo? Cuz that response was meant for him. You didn’t have no circular argument that I could see.

    Yeah, your blog did help. Thanks.

    But the damned trains. Always with the damned trains. I just want to get there already! One time the old guy actually wrote something down on paper and gave it to me (folded) when I was on the bus. And I lost the paper! Doh.

    Well, I’m gonna get some rest. Whew. I love that good exhaustion after you’ve worked your butt off for a few days. See you later!

  12. Eve Avatar

    P. S. If you keep dreaming of old men, you probably know that this is that archetypal wise old man, possibly… he is a herald of wholeness, definitely an inner companion who can and will advise you on your journey (hence the trains). You’re in motion, which is great.

    Just the reference to old men and trains says a lot about you. It suggests you’re alive, growing, moving along, and your inner advisor is either telling you something or trying to.

    I won’t presume to ask you what. But I do expect you to blog about it later!

    Hehe.

  13. Eve Avatar

    Lamberakis, as I said, I was referring to archetypes of the Animus and the Wise Old Man, not to real gay men. A gay man is a man with both masculine and feminine qualities, whereas an archetype is conceptually more one-sided because it’s symbolic of characteristics representing a universal idea

  14. Lamberakis Avatar
    Lamberakis

    More progress! I am at the stage that I feared at the beginning, one where I have put most of my ideas down but they seem so hopelessly muddled that I am tempted to throw the entire thing in the trash and take the F.

    Eve, I think I have a naturally androgynous personality. At least I’ve always felt that way. I am, however, all woman, happily. I am told I have a very feminine aspect. And while I’ve often wondered and even fantasized about what it might be like to be male, I feel ultimately very physically feminine. Physically… Not necessarily emotionally feminine, especially in relationship to other people. I have learned over the years how to “flow” more in a feminine way (the thing about letting men know that you are huntable, as you say, I’ve only realized slowly, with experience; being very reason-identified, I always want to believe that you can reason with men about what you needed from them.)

    I have dreams of these old men all the time, though sometimes they are young and take me on these bus trips or train trips across the landscape, and sometimes they leave me stranded and then I’ll panic for what seems like eons in the dream, and then I turn around and there they are again. I think I am very male identified, have traveled a lot, looking for “something” (hunting?). And I’ve met a really interesting man recently, and have been trying to broadcast those “I am worth hunting for” signals, and things have gotten mildly interesting, but I always worry that I have done or said the wrong things. 🙂

    SO that must be how you start a blog? Maybe I’ll stop in over the weekend when this project is over and copy and paste and this could be my inaugural post.

    Have a good night. Sweet dreams and all.

  15. Frank_Rizzo Avatar

    My problem is with Rowlings’ attempted psy-op with my morality. I think she expects me to think something like this:

    “Wow Dumbledore is bad-assed…..Dumbledore is gay…..therefore gay men can be bad-assed too.”

    Oh if only things were that simple, if only the Socratic Method worked so easily. Nice try, your literature, madam, is superior to your attempted political statement. I’m not mad because Dumbledore “is” gay, I’m mad because you tried to trick me into being ok with it.

    Let’s not forget where the Supreme Mugwump was forced out of the closet. A young girl asked if he ever found true love. A simple yes or no would have sufficed. Instead Rowlings lay in wait like a snake poised to strike. I find it inappropriate for young children to have to struggle with sexual identity, let’s get through the “simple stuff” first like life and death. Had that been my young child I would have been a little unhappy. Shame on you Joanne, at least find an adult to use as a vehicle to put forth your beliefs.

    To switch trains of thought, I found it interesting your Jungian point of the animus as I immediately thought of a more Freudian theory. Rowlings castrated the Father Figure, and my super ego is pissed. I know the correlation between being gay and castrated is harsh, but do most men think of a gay man as “manly” or “having balls”? For anyone struggling with this, the answer is no. For almost all men their idea of a father figure, the super masculine, is not a gay one. There is something to the term effeminate that is very accurate to describing a homosexual man be it right or wrong.

    Forgive a college dropout for attempting to understand Freud and Jung, I hopefully haven’t babbled too much. For some reason those of use with an IQ in the genius level are forced to try to understand everything. 🙂

  16. Eve Avatar

    Lamberakis, hmmm. Does a man always have to make the first move? No. Absolutely not.

    But a man likes to think he made the first move. ;o)

  17. renaissanceguy Avatar

    Eve, thanks for putting into words what I have been thinking but couldn’t figure out how to say.

    It does have all the feel of some kind of cheap trick that the public is supposed lap up like a bunch of gullible dupes.

    No thanks, Ms. Rowling.

  18. Lamberakis Avatar
    Lamberakis

    OK, some progress. Only a little, but some. I’ll be up the rest of the night.

    Well, I do sort of like your blog. Not because we’re alike or anything, because I think we’re worlds apart in many ways. (Though, goodness, I only just “met” you.) But in that simpatico way that’s about harmonizing or resonance, or however Jung would put that.

    Let me ask you this… Where do you stand on the whole Venus-Mars thing? Specifically, does a man have to always make the first move? This is related to the thing that made my day odd, as I mentioned earlier. (Don’t mean to be coy, just a little shy.)

  19. Lamberakis Avatar
    Lamberakis

    I’m glad you’ve given me a dispensation on finishing my presentation. Now could you copy my professor in triplicate?

    So I actually had a bit of a strange day, and I feel like I could “talk” about it for paragraphs on end if I had a blog. Instead I have to force myself to write about this sociology stuff that’s *a lot* unfamiliar to me. And I am blocked! Ever feel like you have spiderwebs for brains? Or like some emotional issue (nothing heavy, but intense, yes) is taking up all your creative energy? I know I could whiz through this book and bang out this report, but right now it’s like my chi is all out of whack.

    I don’t know why I’m coming here to tell you this. Lol.

  20. Eve Avatar

    Lamberakis, thank you for your always astute observations. I said it before, and I’ll just keep harping away at this: I think the male archetype definition has been figuratively emasculated–deprived of strength or vigor. Rowling messed with my archetypal concept of Dumbledore. When she outed him, he was stripped of his archetypal form and became a multi-faceted character. I don’t think it was fair of Rowling to do it. Writing as an analytical psychologist, I’m speaking directly to the loss of an archetypal representation, and not about a human (male, female or non-binary).

    I wish you’d get yourself a blog and let me know where it is so that I can read how you think and write about these topics.

    Hurry… do it now. It will be literature. I’m sure your prof will give you a grade for it.

  21. Lamberakis Avatar
    Lamberakis

    Well, you do throw in a bit of an analysis on how the wise old man thing crumbles for Dumbledore now, calling on Jungian ideas to flesh it out. Of course your comments preceding that riff are clearly framed as your “first reaction;” I read them as such and actually found the voice funny and fresh.

    I am definitely interested in saying more, but have to get back to work unfortunately, right now. All I know about Jung and Freud I learned in the classroom. I am a student and a lit wonk. Thus, words like “otherness” and “denormalization” seem to roll right off my tongue.

    Thanks for your response.

  22. David R Avatar

    In thinking about this further … the topic really fascinates me, because so many archetypes, as defined/identified esp. by Jung, do have a sexual orientation as well as a gender.

    It makes me wonder … naturally, in their own private mythology, do homosexuals have different archetypes? If we were able somehow to identify sexual orientation at birth (this is assuming one believes, as I do, that true sexual orientation is inherent, rather than learned or chosen) and we isolated those children in their own community free of external influence … what dreams would they have, what stories would they naturally tell? What would their inborn Heroes look like?

    While I do believe in collective consciousness, because it’s the only explanation for the fact that the same types of symbols, stories, heroes, villains appear again and again from the birth of recorded stories to the present day, I do wonder whether there isn’t a pool of overlooked “natural” mythology that isn’t part of the heterosexual mindset.

    Not to use myself as a reliable example of this, but — a friend of mine once described me, accurately, I think, as “genderqueer,” in that my sexual orientation is straight, but my human manifestation is almost gender-neutral. I notice that my own inner mythology, with which I am extremely familiar, is at odds with much archetypal mythology. I understand a lot of archetypal mythology/storytelling, and see easily how it applies to many common situations/patterns, but it doesn’t always apply to me in ways that are meaningful. Hence, for example, my odd subliminal idea that Dumbledore was probably gay, because my idea of strength and wisdom is inextricably linked with an expectation of great compassion, which is perhaps a “feminine” trait.

    I wish I had the education to actually address this topic more meaningfully; it’s very interesting to me. Thanks for letting me rummage clumsily around in the amazing bibliotheque of ideas that is your blog.

  23. David Avatar
    David

    This was so very interesting. What’s interesting to me about this topic is that I had always assumed that Dumbledore was gay, even if it wasn’t stated or maybe even hinted at in the books. I’ve always assumed the same thing about Gandalf, actually. I am straight, though I am often assumed to be gay, for reasons I don’t really understand; but my experience with gay men as human beings has been generally more positive than my experience with straight men, so my personal archetype of male wisdom isn’t necessarily heterosexual.

    I think it’s fascinating to consider whether the Jungian archetype of male wisdom — what I would shorthand to myself as The Wizard or The Mage — has any inherent or implied sexual orientation, and whether masculinity is in fact related to sexuality. That seems like such a bizarre question, and yet I think it’s valid … for example, the Virgin as an archetype changes meaning completely if we think of her as a lesbian.

    But all of that aside … if Rowling wanted to make these books a platform for gay tolerance, she should have had one of the students as an openly gay character. That’s my two cents.

  24. Eve Avatar

    Beck, you’re welcome.

  25. Rebecca Avatar

    This post put a lot of what I was thinking into words – her announcement bothered me and I couldn’t pin down WHY. Thank you.

  26. Eve Avatar

    Lamberakis, thank you for your comment. This is less an analysis than it is my initial thoughts about why I felt what I felt upon reading what Rowling herself said. This came after I’d heard that Dumbledore was gay. You used the word “exploit” and that’s what I thought about the way she did this. It seemed exploitative and not very heroic.

    I think what you suggested, saying, “He was hot for this other character” would have been preferable and funny. It would have made Dumbledore more human, which is why we love him, and less of a poster child for a cause. A wise old man becomes so having gone through enough of a journey that he has something to offer to the Hero character (in this case, Harry). Since the wise old man usually has a flaw, it seems right that Dumbledore’s “flaw” would be that he had made a serious mistake in judgment by loving an evil man. I didn’t write “by loving a man;” I wrote, “by loving an EVIL man.” That’s a great flaw to have, loving the predecessor of the Dark Lord (kind of like falling in love with Satan’s sidekick). She might have done it in a more robust and respectable way, because she has a more than competent grasp of mythological symbols.

    You asked, “Why do we have to treat the fact of other people’s sexual preference as this odd otherness?” Excellent. Are you a person with some background in depth psychology? The way you use “otherness” has some meaning to me in that area and it’s apt in this discussion. Very nicely put.

  27. cerebralmum Avatar

    I have to say, when I heard that news, it stuck in my craw. If her perception of his sexuality was irrelevant to her stories, of what relevance is it now? You’ll note, I say “perception”. An author has no authority when it comes to textual interpretation. In many ways it seems an insult to her readers.

    I think of Henry James. There has been much made of the “lesbian” relationships in some of his works, and yet I have never perceived them. Whatever he intended to convey, those books resonate with me and I love them according to what I see. No other reader can dictate my interpretation and if my interpretation is coherent, the author cannot either.

    Overt sexuality has its place in fiction, but I can see no functional purpose to this supposedly definitive statement from Rowling. It just seems petty. Perhaps she was motivated by the antagonism towards her work from some religious groups? Perhaps she wanted to rub someone’s nose in it? I don’t know, but whatever her reasons, it seems to insult the intelligence of those who love her books, as well to people concerned about prejudice against homosexuality. A person’s sexuality is entirely irrelevant unless someone has an issue with it, in which case the intolerance and ignorance needs to be addressed. The same is true for a fictional character. As Lamberkakis said above, why turn it into some kind of otherness?

  28. Lamberakis Avatar
    Lamberakis

    Frank, it’s not that it’s right or wrong in a moral sense to say that gay men are “effeminate,” it’s that it’s inaccurate at least some of the time. Simply put, not all gay men can be said, after you split hairs and slap asses, to “behave” (if behavior is the definitive characteristic of people) in archetypally feminine ways (since we are talking Jung here).

    Also… You are not only conflating the idea that “for almost all men their idea of a father figure, the super masculine, is not a gay one” with an assertion about the reality of what gay men are like in the world that I, for one, have not found to be true, but you are in the process using a gross circular argument (“the super masculine does not include gayness, therefore gays are not masculine”).

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    Lamberakis

    I don’t agree with a lot of your analysis, Eve, but your thing about Snape’s closet porn addiction and McGonigal’s hysterectomy had me laughing.

    I think if Dumbledore is gay, that’s really not an issue I want to see JK exploit for another four-hundred million. I am surprised, actually, that only this one character turns out to be gay. There’s bound to be scads of others in the cast. If instead of making it into an issue she had simply said “He was hot for this other character” without resorting to a sensational label, I think THAT would’ve been cool. Why do we have to treat the fact of other people’s sexual preference as this odd otherness? Different people walk to different beats. What’s new under the sun?

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