Dumbledore is Gay, and I’m Mad

I heard yesterday that Harry Potter series author J. K. Rowling announced that Albus Dumbledore, headmaster of Hogwarts School, is gay. A friend of mine sent me a text message giving me the head’s up.

I found the news story at ABC News, and it’s true: Dumbledore is gay. I was disappointed to hear the news, but eventually my disappointment became curiosity. Why should I feel disappointed? What should Dumbledore’s sexual orientation matter? Why did I feel a sense of loss, together with a bit of exasperation with Rowling? Why did I also feel aggravated, even angry, after reading how Rowling characterized her intentions? I knew it wasn’t an issue of personal tolerance, but why did I feel Rowling’s actions and words were somehow wrong, then?

Later in the evening, after pondering these questions, I had some ideas about my feelings. In no particular order, here they are:

First, Rowling is messing with my magic. The Harry Potter novels are fantasy novels that take the reader into wonderful, magical realms. This sort of magic isn’t to be trifled with or sullied through sex, religion, or politics. I’m reading for the magic, dammit, not the sex. I don’t want to hear about Dumbledore being gay, or about Harry and Hermione having sex, even if they are married. I don’t want to know when they lost their virginity. I don’t want to even think about the two of them being all steamy. I don’t want to think about teenage boys and their sexual drivenness, or teenage girls and their overbearing hormones, either. I don’t want to know when Ginny got her first period. I don’t want to know about McGonigal’s hysterectomy, or Snape’s closet porn addiction. I don’t care about their mundane sexual activities, their secretions, their body odors, or their secret compulsions. If I wanted to have more of that stuff in my life, I’d live in the real world and watch reality TV or soap operas or Grey’s Anatomy. We all know this is the stuff the world is made of; and we all hope for something more.

That something more is the magic. It’s the ethereal, mysterious stuff of longing, daydreams, nightmares, fantasy and great books such as The Lord of the Rings, The Chronicles of Narnia, and, yes, Harry Potter. We never had to hear about Gandalf’s sexual preferences or Aragorn’s sex life, or whether King Peter was gay or straight; why in the name of all that’s magical do we need to know anything sexual about Dumbledore? You’re ruining my magic, Rowling. Stop it.

Second, this belated announcement seems inauthentic. Rowling’s announcement seems to be more a self-defeating trick of the unconscious than the noble act she would like to portray. According to ABC News Rowling “considers her novels as a ‘prolonged argument for tolerance,’ and urged her fans to ‘question authority.’” What authority, I wonder? The authority of some bygone era when we didn’t have gay marriage or entire television shows produced by, for, and with gay men? The authority of a place where laws prosecuting hate crimes don’t exist, and where parents don’t regularly tell their boys to stop saying “you’re gay” as if “gay” is an insult? What place is that, J. K. Rowling? I’m not sure we need J. K. Rowling to champion questioning authority by finally admitting that Dumbledore is gay.

It seems more likely that Rowling has had some inner authority telling her to shut up and be a good girl, and she finally came out with something shocking and devilish that means, to her, a defiance of some inner authority she carries. Perhaps she projected this onto an ‘authority’ she imagines, rather like setting up a straw man argument and then feeling full of oneself after knocking him down. I think so, because there’s a difference between theatrical noble acts and real ones. I don’t think Rowling is being truly noble; perhaps she is, but based on what I’ve read of her quotes, if they’re accurate quotes, something is fishy in Denmark.

A noble act, in my thinking, would have been to openly portray Dumbledore as gay long before now. In a truly noble act, she might have “outed” him in the second novel, especially if her knees were knocking over the idea, and flown in the face of potentially destructive media attention. A truly noble act is one that involves sacrifice of something valuable. Certainly, the millions of dollars she has earned are valuable. It seems that she waited until after the very last book was published before revealing that Dumbledore is gay. Poor Dumbledore, in the closet all that time. Why, she even had him die with his secret. What kind of a god is she, anyway?

Rowling didn’t out him in the first, second, or even fourth novels. She wrote all those novels and let us all think that Dumbledore was straight. We didn’t even consider the possibility that this grand old bachelor might be gay. He was sexless, timeless, and ageless, as his sort of archetypal character ought to be. Throughout the entire seven books, Rowling let us believe that Dumbledore was either celibate and as sexless as a priest, or else straight. In fact, she said in the ABC interview that the issue of Dumbledore’s sexuality didn’t come up until the filming of the sixth Harry Potter movie, and even then it was supposedly only conveyed through her marginal, handwritten note in the script. We’re supposed to believe that the same Hollywood that sensationalizes everything sexual and prides itself on tolerance kept quiet about Dumbledore’s deep, dark secret? Riiiiight. I do believe in magic, I do, I do, I do, I do, I do!

Third, I’m sad about the threat to Dumbledore as a Wise Old Man archetype. In Archetypes of the Collective Unconscious, Jung wrote about this archetype, indicating that the whole archetype arises from the animus (the male aspect), and  involves both dark and light aspects. Thus, a myth will have a dark lord and a light lord, such as Gandalf and Sauron, or Dumbledore and Voldemort, or Obi Wan Kenobi and Darth Vader. Both characters together are used to represent aspects of the wise old man. The archetypal idea being communicated is that the same character who heals may also wound; that no one, even the wise old man, is entirely good. Jung described the function and appearance of the archetype thus:

The frequency with which the spirit-type appears as an old man is about the same in fairytales as in dreams. The old man always appears when the hero is in a hopeless and desperate situation from which only profound reflection or a lucky idea–in otherwords, a spiritual function or an endopsychic automatism of some kind–can extricate him. But since, for internal and external reasons, the hero cannot accomplish this himself, the knowledge needed to compensate the deficiency comes in the form of a personified thought, i.e., in the shape of this sagacious and helpful old man (Archetypes 218-219).

The wise old man has a spiritual character built on moral qualities; he represents knowledge, reflection, insight, wisdom, cleverness, and intuition. Certainly, Dumbledore can embody all those qualities and be gay. Even the love he had for the Dark Lord’s predecessor, Grindlewald, might be forgiven if, from his error in character judgment, Dumbledore learned wisdom. Rowling didn’t show us Dumbledore’s growth in wisdom, though. Instead, shse injected gayness into the masculine archetype and left the reader to sort things out theoretically.

Rowling created a modern expression of some of the deepest, most long-lived and profound archetypal material we have seen in recent decades, and trivialized it by ruining the magic, tearing down an archetypal symbol, making a fool of herself and her readers, and expecting us to clap happily like children hurrah’ing a lit birthday cake, all in the name of tolerance.

J. K. Rowling, you can take your straw man and light him on fire and do a shaman dance while chanting voodoo incantations and sticking him full of pins if you want, but there is no way you’re going to get me to believe that this is all about tolerance and creating a kinder, gentler world. Someone with your gifts and place in the world ought to be going out there and creating a better Harry Potter series with a gay main character on a quest for wholeness, if tolerance and understanding are your real goals. You might have portrayed his anguish, loneliness, rejection, and bewilderment through seven or eight different novels, and really showed people what it’s like to be gay in this world or the world your character inhabits. You could have written that character to be vibrantly alive, spiritual, and ultimately whole while also admitting he is gay.

Unfortunately, you didn’t do this. Your Wise Old Man wasn’t able to come out until he was dead.

42 responses to “Dumbledore is Gay, and I’m Mad”

  1. David Avatar

    I meant “inherent or implied sexual orientation,” not “inherent or implied sexuality.”

  2. David Avatar

    This was so very interesting … my main confusion regarding your arguments here was that I thought Harry married Ginny, and Hermione married Ron, so the thought of Harry and Hermione having sex on their honeymoon was puzzling to me in more ways than one, but perhaps you meant having sex on their respective honeymoons, or perhaps my reading comprehension has gone to Hell in the proverbial handbasket. 🙂

    What’s interesting to me about this topic is that I had always assumed that Dumbledore was gay, even if it wasn’t stated or maybe even hinted at in the books. I’ve always assumed the same thing about Gandalf, actually. I am straight, though I am often assumed to be gay, for reasons I don’t really understand; but my experience with gay men as human beings has been generally more positive than my experience with straight men, so my personal archetype of male wisdom isn’t necessarily heterosexual.

    I think it’s fascinating to consider whether the Jungian archetype of male wisdom — what I would shorthand to myself as The Wizard or The Mage — has any inherent or implied sexuality, and whether masculinity is in fact related to sexuality. That seems like such a bizarre question, and yet I think it’s valid … for example, the Virgin as an archetype changes meaning completely if we think of her as a lesbian.

    But all of that aside … if Rowling wanted to make these books a platform for gay tolerance, she should have had one of the students as an openly gay character. That’s my two cents.

  3. Henitsirk Avatar

    More thoughts indeed came:

    I also agree that she’s “messing with the magic.” I don’t think we need to know every little thing about characters’ back story. Sometimes it’s illumination and intriguing; other times it’s just disillusioning.

    I think Rowling meant well with the whole promoting tolerance thing. Yet, perhaps she is a “good girl” in that this revelation remained back story until after the series ended instead of simply being an integral part of Dumbledore’s character as written.

    When you say “she pretended that he was heterosexual by letting all of us think so,” you are making a huge assumption about the thoughts of her readers. Perhaps, in Western culture, we assume people are hetero unless told otherwise, because that’s our archetypal family configuration. But, at least for me, Dumbledore’s sexual orientation (or that of any of the other characters) never even occurred to me…as you go on to say, he was “sexless, timeless, and ageless,” perhaps more as the Wise Old Man than a real human being.

    While I’m not so sure about your assertions that making a character gay “feminizes” or “emasculates” him, I think I do agree that Rowling did to some degree ruin the archetype. It’s not so much that I think she was devious or cowardly, it’s that perhaps she should never have revealed it at all.

  4. Henitsirk Avatar

    Honestly, when I read about Rowling outing Dumbledore, it didn’t change my perception of his character one whit. Perhaps I’ve fully internalized him as a Wise Old Man, and sexuality just doesn’t intersect with that picture. I imagine Rowling had pictures of who the characters were, and perhaps if he was gay from the beginning that influenced how she wrote him, but I don’t see it in the books themselves. I interpreted her comments as just “revealing” more about the background of the characters, just like she talked about Lily and James and Snape when they were young.

    Maybe I’ll have a few more thoughts on this, but I must go pick up kids from daycare!

  5. Eve Avatar

    Tricia, Hello, and welcome! Any reader of Cole’s is a friend of mine. Reading Cole’s stuff is, for me, like having that first cup of really strong coffee in the morning! I really enjoy her wake-up calls.

    You wrote:
    4) Don’t confuse gender with sexual identity. They are separate.

    Yes, I know. I don’t always write with precision when I’m all impassioned and stuff. ;o) Which… probably shows some deep, mucky, shadow contents I’m repressing. Dammit.

    5) I believe Rowling’s outing of Dumbledore to be simply further clarifying his identity, for no other reason other than, it came up.

    Oh, I disagree. Nothing but the unconscious “just comes up,” nothing but the great mysteries of Great Mysteriousness “just comes up.” She is up to something, this Rowling woman, and she probably doesn’t even know what up she’s to!

    7) Finally, the issue, for me , is that the presumption is that Rowling allowed us to think of Dumbledore as straight.

    Yes, trickery. I didn’t like that part. I want to know it all beforehand, dadgummit!

    “Throughout the entire seven books, Rowling let us believe that Dumbledore was either celibate and as sexless as a priest, or else straight.”

    Why does celibate, sexless as a priest equal straight? In fact, just writing that question reminds me of several individuals I know who could not face their true sexual identity and chose to live their lives as asexual, “celibate, sexless as a priest”…[and may I digress to laugh at that last one, just a bit… ;)].

    Ah, it’s a metaphor… “celibate,…sexless as a priest.” Although, upon a brief reflection, I would have to say I meant “sexless as a faithful priest,” not “sexless as a priest,” for by now we all surely are aware of just how not-sexless so many priests are. And how human. And how disgustingly perverse at times.

    I was being writerly. I don’t assume that gay people aren’t also celibate. In fact, I have thoughts on that issue that I’ll probably write about later.

    This is one of those things that is about me writing what I wrote and people like you wanting to help with. I don’t think the comment is even worth that help, but if it means something to you to clarify or elaborate, by all means, be my guest. :o)

    When I wrote it, I actually had in mind the type of voluntary celibacy practiced by priests or monks in different traditions, such as Christianity or Buddhism. I think celibacy is a daring and possibly transcendant choice, but one that people can make big mistakes about. For instance, if a person supresses the sexual part of the libido by being celibate, the libido itself is still not suppressed. It is irrepressible, so to speak. (This may not be exact from a Freudian perspective, but oh well… I offer it for correction in advance).

    And since I was lucky to get 20 minutes, only interrupted twice, to write this, I’ll have to stop now.

    Well, I’m privileged that you sat down to read (and write to) me (!) in your extra time. Thank you very much, and I hope you come back.

  6. Eve Avatar

    P.S. Frank, that comment on your comment was me being funny, in case the printed medium loses something in translation.

    I really think you need to practice your frothing at the mouth and your Bible thumping with more abandon. It’s all just not coming through very clearly here.

  7. Frank_Rizzo Avatar

    Lamberakis, no worrys, and thanks for the complement.

    Eve, I answer your question about me being african american with a quote from my first post

    “As an Ultra Conservative Right Wing Zealot Christian Republican White Male”

    So no, I am not.

    Eve responds: Frank… I’m a dummy. Of course you’re an ultra-conservative, right wing zealot Christian Republican white male.

    You act just like one! Anyone could have seen that!

    /slaps self on forehead

  8. Lamberakis Avatar

    Frank, I like your honesty. I’d respond to your points, but I am bushed. What I would really love is to go back to the days when women did not have not work for a living. I am only saying that half-tongue-in-cheek. I am just exhausted. Freaking exhausted! And I don’t even have kids.

    By the way, Eve, my essay was well received.

  9. A Avatar


    De La Tore, M.A. (2006). Reading the bible from the margins. New York: Orbis Books.

  10. A Avatar

    I am more than willing to play 🙂 If nothing else, it sharpens my views and beliefs just as much as it does yours to dialogue like this.

    The plot thickens. I attend a Christian university and am in a high-profile student leadership position. I come across other students and faculty and get mixed reactions. There is the (poorly) masked reaction of, “Tsk tsk tsk. What has this university come to?” Or, “Wow! Good for you for being in such a controversial position.” But, honestly, most people are just curious. And this is kind of my mission for staying here after coming out – to let Christians know that by being gay one is not inherently repulsed by Christianity. Although many are, I want to present an alternative. All of this is kind of off-topic, but leads to my next thought.

    You asked me how I arrived at the conclusion that my plight is similar to someone of another nationality (I referenced the African American experience specifically). While I am white as Wonder Bread, I do have a few mentors in my life who have shaped me significantly. One of them is a Ph.D-educated black woman in the field of sociology. In having conversations with her, we’ve found things that resonate deeply with both of us – prejudices, preformed images of what we should be like, outright discrimination, feelings of questionable self-worth…the list goes on and on. It was actually she that suggested that although our situations have VERY different faces, they really are the same core issue of social tolerance, cultural ignorance, or historical bias. It was later, as I began to research some of the theories/arguments/discussions going on in the areas of gay theology and gay social reform that I found that she wasn’t the only one heading that direction. I also am reading a book entitled a book that focuses on interpretation of the Bible from people on the “fringe” of society (De La Torre, 2006). Gays are included in his list of “marginalized,” specifically within the Christian church (on a large scale).

    So to answer your question, no, I am not African American. And I would never say that my struggles or things that I experience equal those of an African American. The same way that a Mexican can never say that they understand precisely what it is like to be gay and having grown up in the evangelical church. I am only pointing to historical reactions to “otherness” that we now look back on and cringe.

    I’m willing to be honest alongside you and work through some of this stuff. And I give you permission to cut down anything I have to say with a more “enlightened” or educated view, certainly! I am a mere babe in this world, and have so much to learn. While I have a lot of things personally clarified in my own mind, it never hurts to challenge them, right?

    De La Torre, M.A. (2006). Reading the Bible from the Margins. New York: Orbis Books.

  11. Tricia Avatar

    Hmmm… WOW.

    1) Let’s start by saying I popped in from Cole’s site because I love your comments.

    2) I’ve only read this post and the one following, as well as the comments.

    3) I stand in awe of your writing prowess and knowledge base, truly.

    4) Don’t confuse gender with sexual identity. They are separate.

    5) I believe Rowling’s outing of Dumbledore to be simply further clarifying his identity, for no other reason other than, it came up.

    6) I agree with much that has been said here.

    7) Finally, the issue, for me , is that the presumption is that Rowling allowed us to think of Dumbledore as straight.

    ” Throughout the entire seven books, Rowling let us believe that Dumbledore was either celibate and as sexless as a priest, or else straight.”

    Why does celibate, sexless as a priest equal straight? In fact, just writing that question reminds me of several individuals I know who could not face their true sexual identity and chose to live their lives as asexual, “celibate, sexless as a priest”…[and may I digress to laugh at that last one, just a bit… ;)].

    And since I was lucky to get 20 minutes, only interrupted twice, to write this, I’ll have to stop now.

  12. Eve Avatar

    A… just “A”. Wow, wow, wow. Welcome to my blog! I am teary-eyed because after a good sleep last night, I woke up realizing that Alison (Hymes) and Tiv had, probably without even meaning to, activated in me the truth that I needed to get straight to some gray areas in my thinking myself!

    I am not finished writing about my questions, ambivalences, and my feelings about not having all the answers for myself, or about God, or about the Bible, about gay or lesbian issues from my heterosexual, female, Christian perspective.

    I felt very… vulnerable and somewhat fearful when I realized I would keep trying to write about this. And so I prayed and asked God to help me do this. I asked Him to send me people who could help.

    Then I came here and…here you are. I don’t even know what to say except, please, will you guys (all of you) please just hang around and help me as I no doubt make an ass of myself by being honest and asking honest questions? Please?

    I mean, look at this: you are male. You are gay. You know what APA style is (!!!). I love you already. Will you be my friend? (Imagine a little blonde headed girl around age, oh, eight years, on your doorstep, asking you to play. Except, this time, you somehow arrived at my doorstep and you’re asking me to play… and I’m so excited!)

    You’ll know more what I mean when I write later today about two issues that are on my mind today. One is abortion: how I worked out the abortion issue for myself, with (I believe) God’s help, and how I am rock solid on my own belief but allow people theirs.

    The other issue is homosexuality. I am not rock solid in my beliefs. I have gray areas. I have questions and I want to arrive at something I do believe in so that I can articulate what I believe for myself in the same way I can articulate my beliefs about abortion, another highly sensitive and incendiary topic.

    I’m going to do this because some people who keep coming over here have somehow helped me to see that I need to just fearlessly go ahead. For instance, the courage it took for Hymes to list her contradictions. Wow. There they are.

    I think about how probably most humans are split in many ways, with gray areas and conflicting values and ideas about issues, but I know we don’t deal with them because of fear.

    Anyway, I’m going to be looking at some of mine. I think it will help me, but it seems dangerous.

    About your post to Frank, are you also African American? If not, from where does your knowledge come? I ask because ours is a mixed family and being able to discuss race issues is just as good as talking about abortion, politics, religion and gender (hahaha!).

    I’ll just have to start a whole new category. Maybe I will call it “Gay 1113.” It will be about learning.

  13. A Avatar

    To Frank_Rizzo:

    About this visceral reaction to gay men being less masculine on a “deep level.” Some might get ruffled at me saying this, but that is the exact same gut reaction that a lot of people had (have) when around African Americans. I posit that this is a culturally-ingrained reaction and that it is your/our duty to work against this, even if it does feel natural or unchangeable. To challenge the idea of initial reactions and tame our primal self a little.

    On a personal note, I laugh. Most people who meet me do not assume that I am gay. And upon learning that I am gay, have a hard time assimilating it into their perception of me. I don’t say this as a mark of pride, nor do I wear it as a badge of honor. It’s just funny to see other peoples’ (especially men) reaction to my sexuality.


  14. A Avatar

    Absolutely AMAZING post/blog/writing. I am a gay (youngish) man, and so much of what you say resonates with me! I don’t think “agree” or “disagree” works, because I’m not here to argue semantics. However, I had the same visceral reaction – DON’T MESS WITH DUMBLEDORE! The series is done, and I don’t care if a character was more developed in your head than appeared on paper. We do not need to know that.

    However, I do also have this split-personality thing where I am proud that he is gay. That’s part of what you were referring to as being an “A” student in gaynessology versus being actually gay.

    One thing that I will always carry with me, though, is the image I already have of Dumbledore. I know his failures (thanks book 7), his weaknesses, his grand triumphs, and the difference he made in Harry’s life and mission. That is enough for me.

    I appreciate your perspective on this, and thanks for being so articulate. Our world needs more of it, and less sensational reactionism. (See, I can make up words, too!).


  15. Frank_Rizzo Avatar

    Lamberakis, my point wasn’t about what is true; my point was our perceptions of what is true. Dumbledore was put forth as a father figure in the books, and I found it upsetting on a deep level that some manliness was taken away from that. I happen to agree that a gay man can be “manly” but to be honest deep down somewhere it makes Dumbledore less masculine to me. This conclusion is on a totally subconscious level, is not based on any facts, it’s just how I feel. If men where honest and unafraid of being politically correct they would say the same thing. I’m sure not all, but most.

    Your point about circular logic is very true, I think that is part of the reason I like Eve find myself mad that Dumbledore is gay and am struggling to understand why I feel this way. I think that this may be why men in particular struggle with accepting gay men. It does something to our concept of masculinity on a deep level, something that men have trouble transcending. That may not make it right, but hey at least I’m honest. Growing up throwing around the terms “gay” and “fag” as insults does stick with you, and influences your perceptions of masculinity. Finding out Dumbledore actually was one of those terms that I used as insults when I was finding my own masculinity diminishes him. I am of course speaking on my own feelings and opinions, on which I am the world’s foremost expert. There may be a perfectly good reason why I shouldn’t feel that way, but I do.

    Eve comments: Frank, I just have to say that I really love your response here. I’m sorry I’ve been slow about commenting to comments over the past few days. But I felt a rush of joy upon seeing your honesty here. It’s not easy to own one’s stuff publicly. I know; I felt pretty shaky about posting the “Dumbledore is Gay, and I’m Mad” article. I feared rejection, anger, judgments. But the fact is, I’m clear on a lot of my feelings and thoughts, and I’m unclear on othres. I’m an expert on what’s conscious in me (like you are with yourself); but I suspect myself always with regard to my unconscious contents.

    I think I clearly expressed a lot of my misgivings on Dumbledore, or more particularly on Stupid Rowling (this shall henceforth be her name, until I recall some of my projections, haha!). So Stupid Rowling has given me a shovel and said, “Start digging, girl!” and I’m pissed off about that, too. I already have enough flipping work to do on myself. And now this inner gay male issue. Just… sigh.

    Anyway. I liked your response here. Good going.

  16. Lamberakis Avatar

    I meant Frank Rizzo, above. I think I used to know him back in Jersey. He’s a swell guy. Not a mean bone in his body.

    Nah, just kidding. I have no idea who he is. Wait, were you posting as Frank Rizzo? Cuz that response was meant for him. You didn’t have no circular argument that I could see.

    Yeah, your blog did help. Thanks.

    But the damned trains. Always with the damned trains. I just want to get there already! One time the old guy actually wrote something down on paper and gave it to me (folded) when I was on the bus. And I lost the paper! Doh.

    Well, I’m gonna get some rest. Whew. I love that good exhaustion after you’ve worked your butt off for a few days. See you later!

  17. Eve Avatar

    P. S. If you keep dreaming of old men, you probably know that this is that archetypal wise old man, possibly… he is a herald of wholeness, definitely an inner companion who can and will advise you on your journey (hence the trains). You’re in motion, which is great.

    Just the reference to old men and trains says a lot about you. It suggests you’re alive, growing, moving along, and your inner advisor is either telling you something or trying to.

    I won’t presume to ask you what. But I do expect you to blog about it later!


  18. Eve Avatar

    Lamb (that’s a sweet name, I’m going to shorten you to a lamb now), did you mean “frankly,” or are you giving me a new moniker, too? ;o)

    As I said, I was referring to the archetype of the animus and the sub-archetype of the wise old man, not to actual, real gay men. A gay man is a man. Simple. He is a man who may have more or less masculine or feminine qualities. But I am referring to archetypes and their stuff, anyway.

    And I am not in the process of using a gross, circular argument. I was goofing off and making a silly, circular ‘logical’ argument for how a gay man could be the uber-male as you suggested.

    But… clearly it’s a good thing I added my strange sense of humor as one of my great flaws, one that has the potential to alienate people, make them leave my blog, and make them appalled with me.

    See? I did that.

    And grats on finishing the paper. I think I should get some sort of credit for helping, though.

    /ducks and runs

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